Whats causing this...(pic)
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Whats causing this...(pic)
So ive been having this problem where im getting a ghost print, this happens on my second pass......second pass, not hit, no flash involved...screen comes down first pass, fine, second pass to make sure all the ink is cleared this is when its happening! I'm assuming its to do with squeegee angle? I use a push stroke and try my very best to get the same angle each time, any help would be much appreciated
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Re: Whats causing this...(pic)
Is there ink being left on the shirt side of the screen? That is what it looks like to me...when it happens to me it is because of the off contact not being set right. And it could be too much pressure when printing as well. I am sure others have some more input.
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hey, thanks for the reply! im not pressing too hard while printing, don't get me wrong there is abit of pressure to get the white ink to clear. I didn't about off contact as its not sticking or feel too high but It does sound like it could be to be honest, its like the screen isn't coming down in the same place twice, ill give it a try and keep you informed
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Oh yeah I know you have to use some pressure but I know I can be guilty of trying to press too hard.
What about your press...is it holding proper registration? If so I am betting it may be the off contact, either too high or too low. Mine is generally from being too high and pushing too much ink through to get a good thick print.
What about your press...is it holding proper registration? If so I am betting it may be the off contact, either too high or too low. Mine is generally from being too high and pushing too much ink through to get a good thick print.
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I tried looking at this at work yesterday, but the image wouldn't come up for some reason, but I see it now. Did you say you're lifting the screen then setting it back down for the 2nd hit, or are you just doing 2 strokes without lifting the screen? If you're lifting the screen it almost looks like it's not holding registration since the blurriness is always slightly below and to the right like that. Definitely check your off-contact as well, but I would think that if it were solely your off contact and stroke pressure, the blotchiness would be a bit more random and uneven.
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Re: Whats causing this...(pic)
hey guys,
Im not lifting the screen, just doing 2 straight strokes, id put the shirt on - screen down - stroke - stroke - flash - stroke, for a normal print. Off contact is fine releveled it today. I have registration problems quiet often I was printing a 3 colour design today which took me about 3 hours to line up then half way through the run it funnily enough was out slightly below and to the right ''/ but ive printed 2 colour designs before and not had a problem, is it possible that only some of the arms don't hold reg? thanks again guys
Im not lifting the screen, just doing 2 straight strokes, id put the shirt on - screen down - stroke - stroke - flash - stroke, for a normal print. Off contact is fine releveled it today. I have registration problems quiet often I was printing a 3 colour design today which took me about 3 hours to line up then half way through the run it funnily enough was out slightly below and to the right ''/ but ive printed 2 colour designs before and not had a problem, is it possible that only some of the arms don't hold reg? thanks again guys
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Could the shirt be rolling? Got enough adhesive down?
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That happened to me when I don't have enough adhesive on the palette and had made a lot of shirt. Put some more adhesive and clean every 4 to 5 shirts the t-shirt side of the screen.
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Sounds like 1 of two things: Not enough adhesive on the pallet or your print-head is getting jarred/moved by your stroke. You say you're not raising the screen, but you're "flashing" - flashing usually means you're lifting the screen and hitting the shirt/substrate with heat in order to partially dry it and allow for better ink coverage on the next stroke. Do you mean "flooding"? Flooding is when you lightly pull/push ink back over your design in order to fill the mesh with ink.farry1988 wrote:hey guys,
Im not lifting the screen, just doing 2 straight strokes, id put the shirt on - screen down - stroke - stroke - flash - stroke, for a normal print. Off contact is fine releveled it today. I have registration problems quiet often I was printing a 3 colour design today which took me about 3 hours to line up then half way through the run it funnily enough was out slightly below and to the right ''/ but ive printed 2 colour designs before and not had a problem, is it possible that only some of the arms don't hold reg? thanks again guys
If adhesive is the problem, personally recommend getting a roll of double-sided pallet tape. It works wonders for the small run jobs that I usually do, and it washes down easily for re-use. It also means less sprays/chemicals/etc to keep track of
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Hi shamax,
Flash is regardless in this situation, it's not happening after I flash its happening on the second pass, here is how I would print the shirt
Screen down - pass - 2 pass to clear ink (happening now) - flash - pass
It does seem like the carousel is getting "jarred" as I'm using lots of adhesive, not sure what else it could be!
Flash is regardless in this situation, it's not happening after I flash its happening on the second pass, here is how I would print the shirt
Screen down - pass - 2 pass to clear ink (happening now) - flash - pass
It does seem like the carousel is getting "jarred" as I'm using lots of adhesive, not sure what else it could be!