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Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:13 am
by HANGMAN
I was wondering if you could successfully use Greased Lightning Brand degreaser as a substitute for the industry standard chemical degreaser. I can buy that readily at Home Depot at half the price.


if you are not familiar with the product, I have attached a link to the Greased Lightning website below:

http://www.greased-lightning.com

Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:23 pm
by ppdlao
HANGMAN wrote:I was wondering if you could successfully use Greased Lightning Brand degreaser as a substitute for the industry standard chemical degreaser. I can buy that readily at Home Depot at half the price.


if you are not familiar with the product, I have attached a link to the Greased Lightning website below:

http://www.greased-lightning.com
Hi Hangman, without taking a closer look into the product you're suggesting, the answer would be definitely no :!: , this doesn't mean you can not use it as part of your reclaiming screen process chemicals in your shop, maybe you can but, the reclaiming screen process for screen printing needs the correct screen printing industry chemicals. You would be surprised how every little part of the process involved in the screen printing job tremendously affects the final task which is to print t shirts right? and print them easly, with quality and well done right!?

For ex, I used to do what you're talking about, I used cheaper chemicals that nothing had to do with the screen printing industry, and yes, they "seemed" to "work", but what happened to me is that I had pinholes issues on my burnt screens, also using those non screen printing chemicals, caused me "Fish eye" problems, and the worst thing they caused me was Ink Flowing Problems, and believe me, Ink flowing issues is the last problem you wanna deal with in your shop! ;)

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Give it a try posting in those vendors topics :idea: , answering for a degreaser chemical discount, I know you can find a decent chemical for your shop in here, and I know Jon from CATSPIT will chime up in here and give you more detailed info about discount products.

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Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:59 pm
by ApeShirt
Pepe's got this 8-)

Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:05 pm
by ppdlao
ApeShirt wrote:Pepe's got this 8-)

:mrgreen:

Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:21 am
by Catspit Productions
Yeah Pepe really said it better than I could. The degreasing stage of the screen making process is a critical one. The degreaser or soap you use needs to be pure.

Most soap and other degreasing agents not made for screen printing have other additives in them to do different jobs. Some additives soften skin others prevent future staining while others yet may bleach items in order to “clean” them even though they are not technically bleach.

The Greased Lightning is a multipurpose cleaner that may even be too aggressive on the mesh fibers. Remember that you’re dealing with a fine polyester mesh that can get frayed due to physical or chemical abuse.

Once the mesh fibers are frayed it will inhibit ink flow as Pepe mentioned. So the degreasers you can buy for screen printing are not that expensive and may even be diluted if so desired. Rhinotech has a very environmentally safe and user friendly degreaser you can see here:

http://www.catspitproductionsllc.com/rh ... plies.html

It’s called RhinoClean™ GREEN²™ Degreaser DGG² 2200™ and it is only $7 a quart. You can dilute that 50/50 with water if you like and it should still work just fine.
Here is the video on that product:



I would agree with Pepe. Having the right tools to do the job will save time and heartaches. And with screen printing your chemicals are just like tools.

Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:46 am
by HANGMAN
Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate the feedback. The price on the Rhinogreen is good. I'll check into their other chemicals.

Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:37 pm
by Shamax
Does the RhinoGreen also dehaze? And how is the smell of it? I've been using Ryonet's "The Green Stuff" for a month or so now. It's a combo degreaser, dehazer, and screen abrader with a mice smell to it. It's worked good for me, but it doesn't lather-up like the Rhinogreen stuff does, plus the retail tag is a bit higher than RhinoGreen.

Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:52 pm
by Catspit Productions
Yeah the RhinoTech degreaser is just that. It’s not a combo step chemical. The degreaser smells pleasant like soap. But they do have the RhinoGreen Haze Remover too. It has a mild smell as well. You can check out all of the video on the RhinoTech page for a complete rundown on the RhinoGreen line of screen making chemicals.

There’s a video on each of the chemicals including the haze remover. For working in an apartment, you will love this line of chemicals. And you will be completely environmental. No issues going down the drain. Safe for leach fields, septic systems and city water treatment systems.

Okay sorry I got going on a spiel there ;)

Re: Degreaser Substitutes

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:37 pm
by ppdlao
HANGMAN wrote:Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate the feedback.
You're welcome Hangman! :)